If you are in the SoCal beer scene, you have, at the very least, heard of Julian Shrago. He is one of the finest home brewers that we have had the pleasure to share beer with and will soon be heading up the Beachwood Brewing Co, with Gabe Gordon. We get together with Julian in Dr. Bill's backyard and drink some Saison and talk about the future of Julian's brewing career, and why that will mean "WIN" for those of us who love Beachwood BBQ and love amazing Craft Beer. Then Julian & Dr. Bill retire to the kitchen and do a delicious master pairings with German sausages and a fantastic Dunkel Weiss.